Tag en 1090T processor istedet for, og overclock den, så har du sparet de ekstra penge, og har en Processor der yder ligeså meget. ellers ser det ud til at være et fint setup, men evt. burde du vente til HD69xx?
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Hvorfor koster 1100 400 mere end 1090T?
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AMD 1090T | Asus Crosshair IV Formula | HAF922 | H70 | XFX 6870 | 8 GB 1600 MHZ CL6 Mushkin | BenQ XL2410T | Logitech G19 | Logitech G35 |

Fordi den er højere clocket fra standard.
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0.1 ghz højere? Wtf...
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AMD 1090T | Asus Crosshair IV Formula | HAF922 | H70 | XFX 6870 | 8 GB 1600 MHZ CL6 Mushkin | BenQ XL2410T | Logitech G19 | Logitech G35 |

#4 nok fordi det den nye på 3.3ghz, bliver jo altid overpriced når nyt. Søger ikke som sådan besparelser med mindre det optimerer min ydelse/oplevelse
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Men som sagt, snup en 1090T istedet for, og Overclock den lige 0.1ghz så har du samme ydelse, til 400 mindre.
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Min browser fail xD
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Snup du en 1090T istedet for. Du kan IKKE mærke forskel på 0.1 ghz.
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AMD 1090T | Asus Crosshair IV Formula | HAF922 | H70 | XFX 6870 | 8 GB 1600 MHZ CL6 Mushkin | BenQ XL2410T | Logitech G19 | Logitech G35 |

#7 wut? Ok 1090 noted. Hvad siger i til kabinet m.m spørgsmål etc?
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Jeg har selv lige bestilt næsten et identisk system med samme kabinet, tror det er vildt nok :) Jeg skal samle det for en ven, jeg har selv et Corsair Obsidian 800D, personligt synes jeg selv mere om Corsairs, men synes at det fractal ser virkelig godt ud til prisen.
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AMD PHENOM II 965 4GHz / Corsair H70 / 790XTA-UD4 / ASUS HD5850 / Obsidian 800D / 80GB X25-M / Dell UltraSharp 2711 / HX 650

Check #10: http://www.hardwareonline.dk[...] 11500dkk without SSD. Lydlos PC ;)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

And what`s your monitors resolution? You might also wait for 6950 / 6970 they`ll be out next week, so maybe at start 1 x decent GFX will be fine. We`ll see how they perform after they are released.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Thanx E-gamer, in comparisation to this system what would you change to achieve it, change to antec cabinet? and the fans you write about or what?
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1920 x 1080 resolution, yea Im just getting prepared I have planned to wait and see what the wise ppl will write about the 69xx's. How hard is it to install those fans you wrote about in that other thread? have never installed fans like that, only hardware
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I picked Antec P183 (did you read about 2 versions?) because you can use it with Noctua NF-S12B FLX (http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] ) fans - they are also 120mm, as the Antec`s default fans - so easy to swap the Antec`s fans. Fractal use 120 / 140 / 180mm, so it would be hard to find replacement. The 140mm: http://www.fractal-design.com[...] 800rpm - 12dBA, mine`s are 600rpm - 6dBA (cpu cooler fans, back fan, upper chamber fan) + my top fan is +- 400-500rpm. - and i can hear them, so those 800rpm will be louder. 180mm fan must be even louder. However ... you won`t be able to hear the Noctua fans when you plug them outside case, the noise is probably a fault of ... "in - case working". And maybe - wait for 6950 / 6970 - hope there will be some Vapor-X version (very silent fan), because when you will use those Noctua`s + AX850 + SSD (+ external storage?) then the GFX`s fan will be probably the loudest. HD 5870`s Vapor-X fan operates in 2D @ 900rpm / 21%. I was testing it with unplugging rest fans and it`s quiet, i wasn`t able to hear it so this model is OK. 1920*1080 isn`t that bad, so ... wait ... wait ... for new GFX`s ... maybe 1 x decent GFX will be fine. Installing fans is piece of cake, especially if you have empty case ((Nh-D14 will be blocking access to top fan), you just take out those Antec`s and replace them with Noctua. With Noctua you`ll get connectors: http://www.quietpc.com[...] - black reduces the speed to 900rpm - white to 600rpm But i was testing a lot with fans and i`m using on my NF-P14 fan - which cools radiator - 2 connectors on 1 line and on top fan i have ... 3 connectors on 1 line :D I have also replaced NF-P12 fan, which is for NH-D14, with NF-S12B FLX @ 600rpm because the NF-P12 was making weird noise ... so i`ve had a lot of connectors.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

E-gamer du ved godt at der er lyddæmpene materiale i fractal kabinettet ikk? Jeg ville sgu ikke vælge et andet kabinet bare fordi der er en forskel på 4 dBA? 12 dBA er jo næsten ingentinge og det ville normale mennesker ikke lægge mærke til. Men jeg ved godt du er fanboy og intet andet end Noctua er godt nok rofl...
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#16 no, i`m not a fanboy. I was testing Noctua`s @ 900rpm - 13dBA and it was too loud 4 me. First i`ve bought SilenX fans: http://www.silenx.com[...] and i`ve plugged them and the 14dBA fan was like ... 30dBA (way louder than Antec TriCool 25dBA). Returned ... and bought Noctua. I have good experience with them - that`s why i recommend. Maybe those Fractal`s will be fine - i don`t know for sure if they are so loud ... but would be nice if they also give some 180mm specification.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Er fractal da dårligt, har læst godt om det? Hvad med ram kan de mushkin passe med den store noctua køler? og ang ram hastigheds spørgsmål i #0?
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Ram should be fine: http://www.noctua.at[...] About RAM: http://www.tomshardware.com[...] http://www.anandtech.com[...]
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

#18 Jeg har faktisk lige smidt 4gb af dem du linker til i min pc, dog har jeg ikke det samme bundkort (endnu), når jeg sætter dem til auto i mit system får jeg desværre kun 1333 mhz CL9 jeg vil ikke pille ved det i mit nuværende system, men når jeg får mit Asus Formula IV så skulle det gerne være muligt at sætte timings til 6-8-6-24 i bios + 1600 mhz uden store problemer. Jeg har kun hørt gode ting om Mushkin RAM til ovenstående bundkort, så dem kan du roligt købe. Siden E-gamer er sådan en noctua fanboy, må han næsten også vide om der er plads til mushkin RAM under sådan en motherfucker køler.
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Looks like someone is getting nervous :D 2 x 2GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8 for 558dkk will be just fine: http://www.proshop.dk[...]
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Yeah I guess you can only run with low profile RAM under that cooler right? lol
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well jeg gider ikke gå over til noget dårligere ram pga det, ingen har rigtigt svaret på om man kan eller ej med den køler ville ret gerne beholde de Mushkin istedet for noget dårligere.. edit: read ur link looks like they cant fit with the noctua
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#22 check #19, there`s a link for RAM compatibility for NH-D14, and no - not only with low profile RAM. All mushkin DDR3 RAM is good to go: DDR3 Mushkin Blackline Yes DDR3 Mushkin Essentials Yes DDR3 Mushkin Proline Yes DDR3 Mushkin Redline Yes DDR3 Mushkin Ridgeback Yes DDR3 Mushkin Silverline Yes ... so what`s your problem? :-/ #23 - no sense to pay 400dkk more for those Mushkins ... you`ll do whatever you want to do :) I was answering to lolianzo :)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

yea I obiviously only got a lack of reading ur links problem ;)
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Jeg er nu større tilhænger af Corsair H70, du får så meget mere plads i dit kabinet og du kan ligesom mig bare skifte stock fansne ud med nogle næsten lydløse noctua fans.
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#26 so the H70`s pump is completely silent? ( i mean have you unplugged all fans in your case, used "lydlos stromforsyning" and had opportunity to test it?) H70 = 700dkk + 350dkk fans = 1050dkk. If you set fans @ 900rpm the performance will drop, as default fans run @ 1600 or 2000rpm with more airflow. NH-D14 = 600dkk, with fans @ 900rpm it`s still good, no pump inside, no fluid in a PC ;) That`s how i see it ;) What about you? Any changes after changing fans? I have plenty space in my case, besides small cooler = shitty cooling, that`s why H70 is bigger than H50 ;)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Min H70 pumpe er total lydløs tro det eller ej! Kan godt være at det bliver en dyr køler, men jeg kan godt li' at have plads i mit kabinet, performance mæssigt på 4 ghz stiger min temp på cpu kun omkring 1c og det er det hele værd, min computer er ihvertfald blevet mere lydløs.
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AMD PHENOM II 965 4GHz / Corsair H70 / 790XTA-UD4 / ASUS HD5850 / Obsidian 800D / 80GB X25-M / Dell UltraSharp 2711 / HX 650

#28 kun fordi den fylder mindre eller hvad er ellers dine grunde?
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Ja den er meget mindre og jeg kunne forestille mig at den giver et bedre airflow i hele kabinettet, er dog ikke sikker.
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I thought you will write like this ;) But please answer: (truth) - have you tested the pump with active PSU`s fan? - have you unplugged graphic`s card fan? - have you unplugged case fans? - have youdisabled H70`s fans? - have you tested it @ let`s say 3 a.m., when there`s completely silence around? I know i`m the pain in the ass ;) ... but there`s nothing more important for me as professionalism :)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Vil du seriøst have mig til at invistere i en dBA lydmåler eller et eller andet? Når jeg siger den ikke larmer er det fordi jeg har prøvet den uden fans... Selvfølgelig siger den lidt, men det er jo ingenting, vi snakker måske 5 dBA? det er ihvertfald ikke noget jeg kan høre i et lukket kabinet.
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AMD PHENOM II 965 4GHz / Corsair H70 / 790XTA-UD4 / ASUS HD5850 / Obsidian 800D / 80GB X25-M / Dell UltraSharp 2711 / HX 650

10dBA - Normal Breathing/Rustling Leaves 20-25dBA – Whisper 30dBA - High Quality Computer fan 40dBA - A Bubbling Brook, or a Refridgerator 50dBA - Normal Conversation 60dBA - Laughter 70dBA - Vacuum Cleaner or Hairdryer 80dBA - City Traffic or a Garbage Disposal 90dBA - Motorcycle or Lawnmower 100dBA - MP3 player at maximum output 110dBA - Orchestra 120dBA - Front row rock concert/Jet Engine 130dBA - Threshold of Pain 140dBA - Military Jet takeoff/Gunshot (close range) 160dBA - Instant Perforation of eardrum Du har fandme nogen kæmpe øre e-gamer :D
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I know this comparison, but please don`t tell me that people who works there were testing "Military Jet takeoff/Gunshot (close range)" ;) Yeah, might be something with my ears :D I have to sleep with ear-stoppers because i can be easily waken up by noise :( But my PC runs @ 600rpm (6dBA - as Noctua claims) and i can hear those fans, it`s not loud, but i still can hear them and the default NH-D14`s speed - 1300rpm (19,8dBA) - that was like a jet for me.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Jeg sover også med høreværn de fleste nætter, støj defineres også som Uønsket Lyd! og derfor kan 20 db af en elller anden støj føles som en jetjager, jeg har også et passivt kølet (4850) grafikkort i øjeblikket ,og den vigtigste grund til at jeg ikke har skaffet mig en ny pc ,er at jeg ikke kan få et kraftigt nok passivt kølet kort, så jeg følger nøje tråde som denne.
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nogen der har erfaring med det kabinet og psu med henhold til lydniveau og self også performance med psu
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I own AX850, it`s really silent :) No noise in Windows mode, up to 20% load - as Corsair claims: http://www.corsair.com[...] I`ll test it now - as there`s no much noise arround ... stay tuned ... ;)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

I`ve unplugged all fans, only PSU is plugged in and there`s very ... very ... very silent noise, but it`s like ... it`s like a bee from 3 meters ;) It`s not annying at all ... (the PSU - bee would be) ... i`m stressing now cpu with prime95 and no fans :D
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Okay defently a keeper for me then I appreciate your input alot, thanx again.
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... reached 86 and stopped ... then i`ve plugged an upper chamber fan @ 600rpm and i`ve heard some noise ... was a little annoying. A fact: NF-S12B FLX and 2 connectors: - black reduces speed to 900rpm - white reduces speed to 600rpm During plugging: http://peecee.dk[...] I`ve plugged white and black with 1 fan, have no idea how many rpm`s is that, but less than 600 as the fan is more silent - it`s for back, cpu cooler fan and upper chamber. I have top fan plugged with 3 connectors, NF-P14 cpu cooler with white connector from NF-S12B FLX :D The fan is more quiet than NF-S12B @ 600rpm. My cpu idles now @ 36, before 35, GFX idles @ 33. PC is more silent right now ... it`s the level i can accept :) About AX850 - the noise was very little, comparing to my previous HX620 (which i have changed because of noise) the difference is huge. After 7 minutes of full stress: http://peecee.dk[...] - 62 degrees Idle: http://peecee.dk[...] reached 35, but mostly it`s 36. So what can i say - you could buy Noctua NF-S12B FLX ... and plug them with 2 connectors on each fan :) I hear the difference between the 600rpm ... and less rpm. Thanks ... that somehow you made me to do those testing ... i`m really happy right now :)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

I mean - i`ve stopped to testing it after reaching 86* ;) Aborym - you might think about buying Antec P183 case (the new version with cpu cooler hole, and i think the case looks better in real life than on photos), if it will be too loud then you could buy custom fans. Fans in Fractal will be hard to replace.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

E-gamer, hvis du går så meget op i at din Pc skal være stille, hvorfor er det så at du ikke har investeret i et ordentlig vandkøle system, med passive radiators? Du kan endda købe en PSu som kan vandkøles, og på den måde kan du slippe 100% for blæsere i dit system.
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Wega - i was thinking about it earlier, but i don`t know if the passive radiators are so efficient ... and i`m OC fan (and my temps. now are really, really good - cpu cooled down to 34 @ 1.44 vcore - with fans @ +-400-500rpm). I never could undestand people who have watercooling + fans @ 1500rpm ;) - as you can have nice temperatures with good air cooler. Now it looks like you can have also a very silent PC with air :) I think i`ve reached the perfect level now, it`s really quiet ... i think i`ll become a fanboy of Noctua fans with 2 or 3 connectors on 1 line :-/ Next year i`ll change my rig and buy new one with SSD (i hear the HDD working from time to time) + external storage HDD and i`m waiting for some new Vapor-X graphic cards ;)
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

Thanx for the testing was exactly the kind of info im looking for, now I just gotta nerd all your writing again and read about that cabinet since i know nothing about it. I will write here again tomorrow once ive been studying it :) Looks very solid info from what I can tell this far, and actually made me heavy consider to change that cabinet(which I didnt thought i would at first) So nomatter whats written in this thread I do appreciate the info, that im not a Pro on.
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You`re welcome. And: 1. with 6870 CF there will be higher PSU load so there will be more heat and the fan will spin more often. However they claim (Corsair - so of course they claim like that ;)) that the fan is silent, so might be not that bad. But wait for 6950/6970 - maybe it will be enough to buy 1 x 6950/6970 for gaming. 2. HD 6870`s standard fan - operates @ 1000rpm in 2D but i think it isn`t that quiet as Vapor-X. So maybe there will be 6950/6970 custom version with silent fan and thanks to that you will not have to worry about 1 & 2. Fingers crossed ;) And i don`t know if someone has recommended this SSD: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] + external USB HDD. I don`t know if internal HDD (as a storage) will make any noise (when you will not use it, no operations on it`s files). But external HDD = 0 noise when unplugged, that`s for sure ;) I don`t use storage partitions a lot so i`ll chose external HDD 4 myself.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

cheers, looks better than the Corsair f120. Well im kinda a spacefilling kinda guy so I will need internal HDD/s(so I choose the WD caviar black x2) and for that I will have to live with the noise ;) Doesnt stop me from trying to reduce all the rest as much as possible thou ;) I would prob be better off with just 2x SSDs but aslong as I cant get up to 500gb a lil cheaper than currently I think im passing.
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With the higher PSU load,lets say I end in CF, would you recommend me going for a bigger PSU? Regarding your #45 reply, yea I am indeed waiting to see what the new cards will provide, but I like to be prepared and its pretty much last thing I need to fit before I end up buying this. I am thou not convinced the new 69xx will end up with better perfomance than the CF option. Thou if they end up with a custom one as you wrote above, I'd proberbly end up on that If the 69xx's ends up showing decent.
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The thing with bigger PSU is that ... even on lower load they will be louder than AX850: - AX850: http://www.corsair.com[...] - AX1200: http://www.corsair.com[...] so i think there`s no sense to do that. However there`s also a nice PSU on the market - as i was a little surprised that a noise was coming from AX850 - so maybe the other would be better. It`s called Enermax 87+, it`s also Gold: http://www.enermax.com.tw[...] However i doubt it`s available in Denmark, so Germany: http://www.idealo.de[...] Review: http://www.pcper.com[...] "Below 500W output and 30°C inlet air temperature, the Enermax MODU87+ 900W PSU is very quiet and virtually silent at the lower power levels. As the load and internal temperatures increase the cooling fan speeds up to where it becomes noticeable. Note: I was not able to take SPL readings at the higher loads due to all the programmable DC load cooling fans running. " But for god sake, what does it mean "virtually silent"? :D And another one: http://www.pureoverclock.com[...] "And we’re pleased to report that the MODU 87+ fan runs exceptionally quiet, and is virtually inaudible next to all the other components in your chassis. Frankly, a CPU fan or GPU fan will run louder, so inside a case, this power supply is utterly quiet." They don`t get that cpu fan can run @ low rpm ;) And again "virtually inaudible". But on the other hand - it`s only 50W difference, price in Germany will be like 1750-1800dkk and as for now there`s no good noise review. There`s also new Antec - 1200W: http://www.jonnyguru.com[...] But it costs like 2000dkk and doesn`t look like it`s more silent. I cannot test anymore today, i have some weird noise in my ear :( It`s happening lately very often to me, so maybe there`s really something with my ear that it`s so sensitive. The noise from PSU that i`ve heard yesterday wasn`t like a fan noise, maybe every PSU has noise like that due to normal functionality and then also comes the fan noise. It could be tested, as the PSU could be taken out and i could look inside and unplugg the fan ... but i think i`ll do it next year, when i`ll change my PC. I`ll lose warranty for that ... so i`ll wait a little bitwith it. If you could also wait ... then you knew for sure ;) Now you are probably more confused than before ;) So one more word ... i think AX850 is the best choice (price / performance) and the very little noise won`t be so annoying. I still can hear my fans operating @ 400-500rpm (no music on, silence around) ... but it`s way lower noise than it was before and it`s very acceptable level :) Also in reviews, when they check the noise of a PC (not of a cpu fan only) they say that the PC is like 35-43dBA loud, so there must be something ... that in closed case the noise of separate silent components is getting bigger.
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Antec P182 + Noctua NF-S12B FLX, E6850 @ 3.6GHz + NH-D14, 4GB DDR2 800MHz CL4, HD 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair AX850. G9, G15, G25, G35, Bose Companion 5.

your right I am :P but rather that and be sitting with alot of new info to workwith/look at so 2 points for that reply, yea looks like the psu is the right choice even when OC'ing. So im gonna stick with taht, now all remains is to figure out if im gonna follow ur cabinet/fans advice and wait to hear about the new gpus
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thou I kinda liked that Fractal cabinet, so gotta figure out if the change is worth it.
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er Corsair Obsidian 800D prisen værd? har læst denne anmeldelse, http://www.tweak.dk[...] er der nogen af jer der har det. Hvordan er det I forhold til lys / montering?
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Jeg har en 800D :D Super lækkert kabinet, kunne ikke blive bedre kvalitet. Det er kæmpe stort og er faktisk ikke det bedste kabinet til luftkøling, men til vandkøling er det virkelig super, da der er så meget plads. Ihvertfald synes jeg det er alle pengene værd, dog har jeg ikke set fractal XL kabinettet endnu, har bestilt det så det skulle komme inde for et par dage, så hvis du ikke har travlt kan det være jeg kan nå at smide en kommentar om 800D vs. Fractal XL.
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AMD PHENOM II 965 4GHz / Corsair H70 / 790XTA-UD4 / ASUS HD5850 / Obsidian 800D / 80GB X25-M / Dell UltraSharp 2711 / HX 650

Det må du meget gerne, jeg har alligevel et par detaljer der falder på plads før det hele skal bestilles, og venter gerne. Da jeg skal køre luftkøling har det dog en vis prio. at det kører godt med det. Men den har jo heller ikke ligefrem den dårligste anmeldelse på det ;) Hvordan er lyd niveau?
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I know it`s not a question for me ... but my 2 cents from "silence freak" point of view. Fractal XL is nice case, would be perfect: * if the fans were customizable (changing for silent, would be nice if someone who has the case could test it`s loudness - as now i only assume on "specifications" point of view that they aren`t ultra silent) ... i like the idea of no top fan and their top-back fan patent, as the noise don`t go out throught top hole ... cooling performance drops a little, but no noise, no dust, that`s really nice ... but ... * idea of side fan - if you have case on your right side then noise goes through side fan hole :( And during games GFX`s fan is really loud ... and the hole is exactly in this place. I`ll wait for Fractal XL2 ;) - the same no top fan system, all fans 120mm + no side fan. 800D - 3 x 120mm on top (not included), if you won`t install any others (have to buy them) - you`ll have a lot of dust inside. Corsair incudes 3 x 140mm fans ... but they don`t tell any specification of them - that`s not nice, so you will buy something ... and you would not know what exactly it is ... and i doubt that Corsair fans are silent, as they aren`t any custom, just with a Corsair logo: http://www.corsair.com[...] For egzample fan from AX850 is Sanyo Denki: http://www.hardwareheaven.com[...] and that makes a huge difference ;) Looks like no good cases on the market :( Shall we start a "chassis company" for silence maniacs? ;)
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Personligt kan jeg bedre li' designet på 800D, men de stock 140mm fans der følger med, er ikke helt lydløse, men det er dog ikke noget der genere mig. Fractal XL har godt nok noget lyddæmpende materiale og det skal nok hjælpe med at sænke lydnivauet, men meget af pladsen i XL kabinettet er ikke udnyttet særlig godt, altså jeg mener, hvem har brug for 18 harddiske? lol
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I would no doubt work for free for the cause ;) been up all night and idk why I came to same conclusion as you but Im really undecided in regard to an ultra silent or close cabinet
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Jeg går mere op i ydelsen og specielt lydniveau end designet sgu mest mig og kæresten der skal se på den. Og hun synes alle er grimme :p og yeah regner ikke lige med at fyre 18 HDDs af ;) Men det betyder dog stadigvæk at jeg er ved status quo, de omtalte kabinetter i denne tråd kan jeg godt lide, men ved ikke med henhold til lyden om det bliver en af dem... e-gamer I dont think the silence maniac chassis company is a very catchy name :P @loliziano venter dog på din feedback på Fractal dog, da det kunne være lidt spændende at se hvad du synes når du får det samlet for din buddy.
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mand, hvorfor skal det være så svært for mig at vælge et kabinet :p sidetrack, nogen der har erfaring med Shg.dk overvejer eeeeeeeeeeeeventuellt at lade dem samle istedet for mig for noget garanti og tidsbesparelse. Hvad er jeres erfaring med at købe noget samlet der? Hvis de ikke kan finde ud af det gør jeg det hellere selv ;)
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Check also Silverstone products, f.e.: http://silverstonetek.com[...] Uses 120 / 140mm fans. Building the PC ain`t that hard ... but it`s the best to do it on saturday / sunday - will take some time.
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What do you know about that kabinet?
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I think you should go with the Define XL: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] - it`s titanum and black color. I didn`t know about this: http://www.youtube.com[...] Looks like those people there knows what they are doing ;) You remember what i`ve written in #54 about perfect Define XL2? It`s even better now: - side panel is noise - proof and customizable - Noctua also produces 140mm low noise fan: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] so it won`t be hard to replace the Fractal fans if they will be too loud. They say the NF-P14 FLX runs @ 750rpm, but there`s still trick with 2 connectors on 1 line ... so i hope it will be possible to run it @ 400-500rpm - no top fan and i would turn the 180mm fan anyway, it will probably make the temperature rises a little bit... but man ... there will pure silence. Besied you can install 3 fans on front, so there should be nice airflow (i would install only 2 when necessary - top and middle chamber) - be aware that top front fan is 120mm (on pictures) but the NF-P14 FLX can be mounted as 120mm fan and it looks like there`s a lot of space: http://www.fractal-design.com[...] And you will be probably running NH-D14 @ 900 rpm (i`ve replaced NF-P12 cpu cooler fan with NF-S12B FLX with 2 connectors on that fan, that`s why i have 400-500rpm on a cpu cooler fan, my NF-P14 cpu cooler fan is connected via connector from NF-S12B FLX fan so the speed is +-600rpm) so ... you`ll see later if it will be necessary to replace Fractal fans - if they will be louder than NH-D14. Maybe this noise level will be acceptable for you. I have fan on top - so maybe this is the reason i have to run fans @ very low rpm level. And please make a review here ... if you get the Define XL. I think it will be my next case :)
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Well then the decission is not to change the chassis :P looks like im good there, just need to wait for the new 69xx infos and im good to go. Thanx for providing such good links I really like it! Seems like it will be able to customize as I wanted too so thats perfect and the chassis is not bad looking at all, why do I keep writing you in english when you understaand danish... Anyways cheers for helping out.
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Hehe, unfortunately i know only few words in danish, few are similar to german (f.e. svaert - schwer, erfaring - erfahrung - did you know that you almost write in german? ;)), few to english, i also try to think what the writer would like to "tell" us + translate some words ... and then i de-code the danish message ;) Yeah, i know ... it`s a process ;) But thanks to "reading danish" i learn a little bit - the funny thing is that i know how to write a word, but i have no clue how to spell it :D About GFX - you might also try - oh, if you like my links so much - there you go: - http://lmgtfy.com[...] - http://lmgtfy.com[...] ;) Why 6850 CF? It`s cheap and looks that the performance is also very good: http://www.techpowerup.com[...] You can compare it with 6870 CF, so the difference is very small: http://www.techpowerup.com[...] and - 2 * 6850 = +- 2700dkk - 2 * 6870 = +- 3500dkk But read about problems - i`m not a fan of CF / SLI and haven`t read much about it :(
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er de mushkin egentlig Dobbelt kanal hukommelses arkitektur ?
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Jep det er de Dual Channel Kit Engineered for dual-channel architecture. http://www.mushkin.com[...]
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takker :)
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sorry for lidt samme spørgsmål igen men kan jeg OC med den corsair 850w psu? Så en anden tråd med et 20k setup hvor de foreslog 1k watt?
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#49 you sure I wont need something bigger with a potiential CF and OC setup? I was reading some other threads where they recommended higher, ur been only one nice enough to comment on that in this thread. Im not exactly sure how much watt this will drive,, but I read a PSU performs best at 50% or below
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#68 PSU'er arbejder primært mest effektivt med 50% belastning (mindre varmeudvikling, mindre støj, billigere på din elregning & mere stabile spændinger). Det er bestemt ikke det samme, som at de ikke kan arbejde ved 80-90% belastning. En god PSU vil levere de samme spændinger ved 0-100% belastning, i virkelighedens verden vil output svinge lidt, men det bør ikke være mere end hvad der er tolerent for ATX standarden, altså 5%.
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så en 850w vil kunne køre det her system selv i en OC situation, uden alt for meget belastning?
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#63 what makes you not a fan of CF? I read about the problems but doesnt seem like there is a general conslusion, driver bugs? But for some it seems to be working quite good. Im excited to read reviews of the new cards tomorrow at release thou, performance results i mean.
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Hvad skal jeg bruge i forhold til kølepasta , værktøj, anti statiskt tools etc? jeg er klar til at bestille ovenstående nu, håber psu kan klare ovenstående spørgsmål.
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Have you seen reviews of 6950 / 6970? Which card(s) will you buy? 850W for CF is enough. Here you have power consumption for GFX`s: http://www.anandtech.com[...] If you buy 1000-1200W the funny thing might be ... that they can be louder than AX850 anyway, even if the % load will be lower. AX850`s efficiency is very good, you don`t have to worry about PSU. I probably misunderstood the thing about "kolepasta" but you`ll receive Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste with NH-D14 and you can use it for processor as well. It`s a very good thermal paste, i`m applying it on processor with ... note paper: http://www.psdgraphics.com[...] It`s hard enough when you roll it down a little. Half an year ago i was cleaning the cpu with alcohol ... but 2 weeks ago i`ve applied new paste without doing it (cleaning only with kitchen towels) ... and i must say that temps. are also very good.
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super response. Yea I read the reviews im getting one 6970 for now, should be enough for now, and still run very goood looking on what u wrote me earlier. Then I can allways consider an extra later on, thanx for clearing out the power issue. Recieved chassis today(gonna make sure to write an review once I got all collected together), now im ordering the rest. Cool that the thermal paste from the NTh1 follows, dont have to worry about that then.
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Yeah, 6970 should be fine, no other "good" option anyway - if you decide to go with AMD. Good luck with building the pc, i`ll come and take a look at your review :) P.S. if you gonna be checking the fan speeds - try to test NF-P12 fan from Noctua with 2 connectors on 1 line (one from NF-P12, other from NF-P14) to see the difference in noise between Fractal fans and Noctua.
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Will do will do..And im defently gonna try ur last suggestion. Now its just the waiting game for the parts first ;) Must say 100 points for all the help you given me here, wouldnt be so sure on what im getting without. Much more informed now ;) think its gonna be a nice setup like this
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did end up on original processor 1100T anyways since only 200kr diff at komplett
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Så har du bestilt det hele? :)
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yesh mate, endte med den SSD som blev foreslået dog c300 og HD 6970 ellers blev det som ovenfor vilket jeg tror er helt udemærket :)
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nu hvor jeg sidder og venter på mine dele(sleepless like usual) kom jeg til at tænke på følger der fornødne kabler med er godt klar over det nok er med i psuen, men hvad med 2.5 SSDen følger der med 2.5" kabinet og SATA kabel? kan ikke lige se det. Eller skal jeg købe det eksternt er lidt surt at stå at samle hvis jeg mangler noget
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søger en 8 pins forlænger hos komplett nogen som kan hjælpe?
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8-pin ATX12V forlænger tror jeg nok det er http://www.sweclockers.com[...] de omtaler savn af hul ved motherboard går ud fra det er et sådan kabel? sorry for spamming min tråd ;)
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Hej igen Aborym, så fik jeg samlet min kammerats computer. Jeg vil ikke sige det var en behagelig oplevelse at samle i Fractal XL kabinettet, var faktisk ret skuffende i forhold til at samle i et 800D. Det føltes som at samle i et meditower selvom jeg er ret sikker på at det er et hightower, det var ihvertfald næsten lige så stort som mit 800D. Men hvis jeg var dig ville jeg vælge 800D 100% det er alle pengene værd.
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#83 You will say the same about Phenom X4 965 ... H70 and Sapphire 6970 ;)
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At det er alle pengene værd? Jeg kan kun sige at H70 og 965 er ihvertfald, kan desværre ikke udtale mig omkring 6970 endnu...
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Husk at 1100T er meget mere overclock venlig end 1090T
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Jeg tog også et 1100t, og komplett lovede at levere mig et gratis 8pin kabel til at undgå det omtalte længde problem fra cpu til mb. I følge de 2 videoer i denne tråd skulle det dog være ret rart at arbejde i? Hvad bygger du det på lolianzo? @egamer i choose the saphire 6970 lol :P kan godt lide det ldydæmpende og hvad der ellers er blevet sagt om kabinettet i diverse videoer, virker stort og dejligt npr man lige ummidelbart kigger på andmeldelser og hvad folk har at sige. Hvad har 800D som gør det bedre? ikke fordi jeg regner med at ændre mig men er da intresseret i din viden når du har haft hænderne i begge
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800D har ganske simpelt meget bedre plads og meget bedre mulighed for kabelføring. Der mangler simpelthen huller der hvor motherboarded sidder i Fractal XL, altså til kabelføring + det er et stort kabinet (næsten lige så stort som 800D) og det føles som at samle i et miditower, det synes jeg er lidt for dårligt tbh. En ting skal det dog have en stor ros for, det virker virkelig som om at der er et rigtig godt airflow i kabinettet og det lyddæmpende materiale virker faktisk rigtig godt. Men husk det er kun min mening, det kan være at du vil finde det super lækkert :)
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ja jeg prøver det i hvertfald, så Sweclockers version af review af den så det ikke helt skidt ud med kabelføring foruden PSU til MB
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