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Af Ultrabruger Frederik94 | 25-12-2013 16:04 | 1677 visninger | 30 svar, hop til seneste
Hej HOL, Så var det min tur til at bygge min første PC selv! Hvad Skal Den Bruges Til? Primært til at game BF4 og ligende.. Desuden skal den også skal den også bruges til at køre 'lidt tungt' software. Jeg regner med at køre 2 monitors, hvis det har nogen betydning :-) Hvilke Krav? - SSD - God CPU! Hvad Er Budgetet? 8.000 - 9.000 kr. Er det noget i kan hjælpe mig med? :-) Eller er det bedre jeg selv prøver at lave et build og så få kritik? Anyways tak!
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25-12-2013 16:11

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Hvilke skærme har du? Prøv selv at se på nogle dele du godt kan lide, vi kan ikke se om du er til mini-itx eller du vil have atx? Noget i stil af i5k + hyper 212 og oc, et z87 mobo, et gtx 770 og 8gb ram.
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25-12-2013 16:26

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#1 Har en Philips 24" LED 247E4LHAB/00 og en ligende samsung skærm, men tror jeg skaffer mig en til af de her philips. Okay kigger lidt nærmere på mini itx og atx. Tak :)
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25-12-2013 19:45

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Think about this one: http://shop.computerplanet.dk[...] - components bought separately cost +- 7400kr. If you want a very silent PC - "saml selv".
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reaperkill60
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25-12-2013 19:58

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#3 e-gamer det var sku noget af en cheap pc
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e-gamer
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25-12-2013 21:17

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#4 What else he needs? - cpu is a top for gmaing, gpu has super value. Rest of components is ok, except cpu cooler - which he should buy and install + OC. Everything depends on his priorities.
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Frederik94
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25-12-2013 21:37

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Hmm.. So is it actually cheaper to buy it 'premade' then to saml selv?
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25-12-2013 21:39

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#6 It depends on what you want. Prøver lige igen.. #6 Det kommer an på, hvad du vil have. Vil du have mest mulige FPS og er ligeglad om den larmer, eller vil du fx have en performance pc der er stille.
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25-12-2013 21:56

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#6 Normally - not, but this offer is crazy :D If you sum op components from this PC: http://shop.computerplanet.dk[...] - they cost +- 7400-7500 kr. - bought separately ... so ... a nice offer, and it has all what you probably need (except the cpu cooler). #7 That PC ain`t a jumbo jet, a "normal PC" - if it`s about noise. Silent = special silent components = cost more.
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25-12-2013 22:55

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#7 Vil helst have en performance pc der er stille. #8 I don't need it to be 'super silent' but just not very noisy if you know what I mean :-p BTW behøver jeg en anden hardisk udover min SSD?
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25-12-2013 23:04

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SSD - C:/ partition (installed Windows, program, games), no need of HDD if 112GB space (usable of 120GB SSD) is enough for you. But for movies, music, etc. - "lager disk" - HDD. Of course you can buy bigger SSD, f.e. Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (+- 230GB usable space), if the space is enough. But 840 EVO 250GB cost +- 1200kr, 840 EVO 120GB cost 700kr. + 1TB HDD for 500kr = the same price but ... 1120GB space, instead of 250GB. Up to your preferences.
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25-12-2013 23:14

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#10 Hmm I'll just go for ssd + hdd I think :) What do you think of this vs the other you linked? http://www.mm-vision.dk[...]
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25-12-2013 23:24

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Hvor meget bedre er i7 over i5 anyway? Er det det værd at ofre lidt ekstra og skaffe en i7?
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26-12-2013 00:45

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The mm-vision cost more and has shitty motherboard - no OC, and only SSD (especially that you want SSD + HDD = more space). If that PC for 6949kr. wasn`t a nice offer ... i wouldn`t recommend it to you ;)
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Frederik94
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26-12-2013 01:22

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I know e-gamer :D The only thing holding me back is really the i5 (maybe i7?) and the case is kinda small and weird looking
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26-12-2013 01:48

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It`s an mATX PC. But if you can build it by yourself ... then: 1. RAM: http://www.computersalg.dk[...] 2. cpu: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 3. case: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] + top fan: http://www.computersalg.dk[...] 4. SSD: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 5. HDD: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 6. cpu cooler: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 7. mobo: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 8. DVD-RW or Blu Ray 9. PSU: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 10. gfx: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] 11. Windows 8.1 64 bit: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] Don`t know the price :-x ... but components are really good. If it`s too much - then i5-4670K: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] and you can save money on HDD - you can always buy it later, no problem.
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26-12-2013 02:23

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RAM: G.Skill TridentX Series 635 Kr. CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 1400 Kr. Case: Fractal Design Define R4 708 Kr. Top Fan: Enermax UC TB12 81 Kr. SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 1.156 Kr. CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 464 Kr. PSU: Corsair RM750 888 Kr. GFX: MSI N770 TF 2285 Kr. Total: 8.866 Kr. This is currently what I'm thinking, if I had to sacrifice something what would it be? So the price can go down a bit? :-)
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26-12-2013 02:37

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Mobo is missing ... in overwiew, but i think it`s included in price. Other mobo tips: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] I don`t know your "case style", Zalman has quite cheap cases: a) http://www.zalman.com[...] http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] b) http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] http://www.zalman.com[...] c) http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] http://www.zalman.com[...] You could also save money on PSU: http://www.webhallen.com[...] - it`s an ok unit, should be very silent.
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26-12-2013 02:43

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I really like that case R4 and it should be really silent so i think I will stick with that. Okay thanks I will get that PSU instead. How do you think this is compared to the 'Nano gamer' you linked? :-)
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26-12-2013 02:50

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You can`t beat that Nano Gamer because that PC cost less ... than components ;) The only thing you can do is make the PC more customizable - for your needs. If you need 250GB SSD ... ... but on the other hand - 120GB as C:\ partition ... should be fine ... and for the Nano you only need decent cpu cooler, so the price with the NH-U12S added extra would be +- 7500kr. And here ... it looks like 1000kr. more (250GB SSD instead of 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD) ... + some changes (other case, RAM, mobo). If you want to save some money - that Nano Gamer is a really great offer ... that`s why i have recommended it to you. Ppl kinda like Prodigy M case: http://www.legitreviews.com[...] but if you would like to have more quality (better mobo, more silent gfx) - then you can build the PC by yourself.
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Frederik94
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26-12-2013 03:40

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It seems like the Nano Gamer beats every build I try to make in price anyway ;)
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#21
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26-12-2013 11:18

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Yes, it`s a really good offer, but as i`ve said - you can build "your own PC", with Nano - you buy what they`ve chosen for you. So you have to ask yourself: 1) do you want 250GB SSD + later some HDD or 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD will be fine? 2) do you want to OC? - a lot? - or just a little? Nano`s motherboard isn`t anything amazing - an ok product, but will be also fine for OC, however f.e. ASUS Z87-Pro looks like a better mobo for OC (but cost +450kr.). But they`ve also done nice OC on that Nano`s Gigabyte GA-Z87M-D3H: http://extremespec.net[...] But a decent cpu cooler needed, for sure. 3) is the case ok for you? - that`s mostly it, because if you gonna build a PC for you then ... rest of components should be the same (the same cpu, similar ram, the same gfx, similar psu).
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26-12-2013 14:43

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1) 250gb of SSD is all I need. 2) I want to OC but not sure how much. 3) I really like the R4 I think i'm going to try doing my first build with the parts you suggested. Any good tips for a 'first timer' building? :-)
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#23
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26-12-2013 15:46

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#22 Yeah, then "saml selv" is the choice :) Never do anything by force when putting things together, everything has to fit perfectly. 1. Install DVD-RW and SSD into case (why now? - so you don`t have to install them when other components are installed (mostly DVD-RW) = no change of damaging them), then you only gonna plug cables ... and the top fan. 2. Install cpu, RAM, cpu cooler (thermal paste ;), PSU cables for mobo (only cables in proper mobo plugs) ... on mobo - then put it into case. Don`t touch cpu pins ;) 3. Install gfx + gfx cable (are already plugged before you putting gfx into case). 4. Plug gfx and mobo cables to PSU and install it with those that you gonna need - SATA (already plugged). It`s easier to plug PSU mobo and gfx cable into modular PSU (before you "screw it"), instead the other way. But first - do a PSU test: http://www.corsair.com[...] Good luck.
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26-12-2013 22:06

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I'm also looking to buy a gamer PC and the nano looks pretty sweet. But is the 770 powerful enough for BF4 and the games coming in the next couple of years? I'm gonna play on 24 inch monitor with 1900x1200. And does the motherboard support SLI?
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lizzy
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26-12-2013 22:09

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Rune tsk tsk.. At kapre andres tråd er dårlig stil..
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iNztain
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26-12-2013 22:12

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#24 Nej ikke på kommende spil ultra 60 FPS :) Tror heller ikke 770 er helt flydende på x1200: http://www.bf4blog.com[...]
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Rune
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26-12-2013 22:15

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det virkede bare til det var opklaret, så var det jo ikke nødvendigt at lave en ny tråd :)
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26-12-2013 22:16

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No SLI, only CF (2nd PCI-E slot x4), but SLI or CF - those are problematic solution. After some time - it`s really easy to change gfx, you just sell the one you got and you buy new (new high-end after +-2 years usually offer a lot of performance boost). GTX 770 for 2300kr. is a really nice option (powerful + well priced), +- 8 months ago they were selling it for +- 3400kr. (as GTX 770 = GTX 680, more less, as GTX 770 has clocks set higher). 1920*1080 vs. 1920*1200 - not much difference in performance. Cpu is oc ready (proper mobo), the only thing that is missing is a decent cpu cooler. But that PC is very well configured ... and price is really nice, so if you are looking for a PC for gaming ... you should definately buy it (and after some time ... overclocking cpu + gfx swap [+- 1,5 - 2 years] - if needed). #26 No better option than GTX 770 OC (Nvidia factory) anyway, GTX 780 offers low performance gain and cost +- 1200kr. more.
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07-01-2014 19:06

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Hey I've build the computer now and it's nice! Just wanted to say thank you for your help e-gamer, much appreciated :-)
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#30
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07-01-2014 19:32

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You`re welcome, i`m glad to hear :)
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