Det kommer an på hvilken strømforsyning du har. Men det grafikkort du nævner er måske lidt overkill iforhold til en i3-550. Hvilken socket har du (1156 evt.), så skal du nok opgradere cpu også, som også er vigtig i samspil med grafikkortet, hvis du skal have et 7970. Men du kan købe et powercolor hd7870 hos caseking.de til 1470kr eller et hd7850 2gb for ca. 1300kr i dk, hvis du ikke vil opgradere din cpu nu, så vil det matche bedre. Men prøvt evt. at finde en i5-660 eller lign. så får du mest ud af grafikkortet. Har du været i bios og se hvilken hastighed din ram er sat til af bios ifht. spd. Det kan være din ram er sat for lavt 667mhz; istedet for 1333.
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En på 350W.. Ja, socket LGA-1156. I Lavasys Everest under Motheboard og under "Memory Bus Properties" står der "Real Clock: 667 MHz (DDR)" og nedeunder "Effective Clock: 1333MHz" - Fandt intet i BIOS om hvorvidt de er sat til det ene eller det andet. Hvis jeg vælger at opgradere CPU'en til en i5 eller i7, hvilken vil du så anbefale? Der er jo ikke så mange at finde på edbpriser med socket 1156.. fx. Core i5 I5-680 4 MB? Og hvis jeg ikke vælger at opgradere CPU'en OG grafikkortet, men kun grafikkortet, så vil dem du nævner være 10 gange bedre end det HD5670 på 512MB jeg har nu og spillet vil kære glimrende?
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Din ram hastighed ser ud til at være ok. Din psu er ikke til større grafikkort, hvis du vil være sikker på den kan trække det hele. Du kan købe en XFX core 550W psu for 443kr i computersalg.dk eller komplet, så kan du trække de fleste gfx; eller et fremtidigt system med 1 gfx kort. Så kan du købe et hd7870 i tyskland for 1470kr eller et hd7850 i dk for 1300kr og evt. beholde din cpu, kommer an på budget. Ved ikke om det kan betale sig at købe en http://www.ebay.co.uk[...] for 700kr. Men du kan vist overclocke den cpu du har nu, så tjek evt. temperaturen på den og om du har OC mulighed i bios. Så kan du måske få lidt mere ud af den. Det kan også lagge hvis dit windows er 'gammelt' og ikke kører optimalt eller hvis du har for mange baggrundsprogrammer. http://www.hwcompare.com[...]
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Ok kan se det gfx i tyskland ikke er meget billigere end et http://www.computersalg.dk[...] så du sparer 66kr ved at købe det i tyskland. Og hvis du bestiller psu der får du portoen gratis (sikkert også i komplet der har ca. samme priser) så du sparer yderligere 25kr. Ville nok vælge sapphire da du får 2 propeller istedet for 1 på powercolor; 2 plejer at larme mindre. Har selv lige købt et sapphire 7850 med 2 kølere der kan overclockes en del så sapphires komponenter fejler ikke noget.
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Du kan sagtens nøjes med nyt grafikkort :) Men et 7970 3GB vil være overkill og jeg tror også din PSU vil få problemer, hvilket mærke er det? Din CPU vil nok også være flaskehals i mange titler med sådan et dyrt grafikkort. Så du burde holde dig til kort i 1500-2000 krs klassen. F.eks. 660/660Ti / 7870/7870XT.. Dette er et godt køb: http://www.caseking.de[...] Inkl. Bioshock Infinite og Tomb Raider. Bliver ca. 1700 med fragt i alt.
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Hvad er dit budget og forventninger? Det betyder meget når man ser på hvad og hvor meget der skal opgraderes.
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Tak for jeres svar indtil videre :-) Det nemmeste og billigste vil jo være kun at skifte grafikkortet. Hvis det vel at mærke giver en mærkbar forskel. Vil der være umiddelbar stor mærkbar forskel, hvis jeg smider det der 7870 i? - Og det kunne sagtens køre med min nuværende strømforsyning på 350W? Mærket er vist FSP Group Inc. Model FSP350-60EMDN. Budget ligger på omkring kun at skifte grafikkortet.
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If your mobo is good and compatible with the cpu i name, try to find an used one: - i5-760, i5-760 - i7-860, i7-870 ... and OC. RAM is fine (for gaming) if you don`t do a lot of multitasking. Of course new PSU is needed - for new gfx, so it`s not stressed that much and will last longer, without being a Concorde style noisy. P.S. FSP is a good brand, try to sell it. I would say: 1) first buy: a) gfx: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] b) psu: http://www.cinemagic.dk[...] 2) hunt for the mentioned cpus, if you got nice / compatible mobo + OC.
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e-gamer: I've got a socket LGA1156 CPU now, then my motherboard is only compatible with 1156 CPUs, right? And about installing the new PSU, is it just "plug-and-play" method?
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Yes, only those cpus, those that i`ve written about are LGA1156 socket compatible. Your i3-550 is a 2 cores cpu, those that i`ve written about are 4 cores cpus, they are quite old, but still not so bad for gaming, especially when you OC them @ +- 3,8GHz ... and the most important - should be quite cheap (= nice price / performance ratio). But which motherboard do you own now? Any custom cpu cooler, or stock one (Intel`s)? Which case ("kabinet") do you own? PSU and plug and play ... well ... there`s a little work with that, but it`s not so hard, every stick fits to one "place". But for new gfx you need new PSU, as this 350W FSP is not enough, so you will have to do it anyway.
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The PC is a Medion Akoya P4375 D with all standard, except for HDD. This is the one: http://aldi.medion.com[...] So the motherboard is a custom one for Medion PCs. A custom MSI, I think. But not which exact model. Here's how it looks inside: http://img687.imageshack.us[...]
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Jeg kan se der står ATE på din psu. Har kun hørt om ATX men skal ikke kunne sige om den har andre standarder, tror det ikke. Men for at være helt sikker tag evt. strømstikket (forsigtigt) ud af bundkortet så du kan se hvor mange pinns der er, eller tæl dem uden at tage det ud. Der er nok 20 eller 24 pinns (nyere bundkort,) og så kan du sagtens bruge en ATX psu. Tjek også mål på din psu og se om de passer med den nye. Det sidste er måske overflødigt, men det er bedst at være sikker, så du ved om en evt. ny psu passer. Den skal ca. være: 15 cm x 8.6 cm x 14 cm (standard). Det er for det meste bare plug and play, men tag stikkene forsigtigt ud og i. Har hørt om en der har knækket et sata strømstik, eller sat et gfx halvt i :-) Jeg bruger iøvrigt strips for at få bedre airflow og nemmere rengøring. http://www.youtube.com[...] Det var iøvrigt det 7870XT fra caseking jeg tænkte på, havde desværre glemt XT.
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Måske lidt misvisende af mig mht. psu. Din gamle psu kan sagtens være lidt mindre end en standard atx, hvor en standard atx stadig passer. Den må bare ikke gå for langt bagud, så ledninger/psu går på drev, etc. Så den nye skal nok passe, men tjek for god ordens skyld skruehullerne bagpå og strømstikket og dimensioner.
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PSU mål: 14 cm længden 15 cm bred 8,3 cm høj Set bagfra: Mellem top skruen og bund skruen i højre side er der 6,5 cm. Mellem skruen i bunden fra højre til venstre side er der 14 cm. Antal pins på stikket på motherboardet er der plads til 24, men kun et 20 stk. sidder i, hvoraf de 19 er brugt. Se billede: http://img202.imageshack.us[...]
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It`s a poor mobo. How much money can you spend on components / PC? I would suggest you to ... build a new PC ... using mixed components (some new, some used) ... and sell this one (+- 500 dkk without the good HDD). Which HDDs you got there? - so you could use one of them.
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Haha, now I can't take you serious e-gamer.. Even if I decided to sell it, it surely won't go for 500 DKK. What's the problem with upgrading the cheap motherboard?
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You mean ... you wouldn`t sell it for 500 dkk or nobody would buy it for 500 dkk? - i`m really confused here :D Problem is support for mobo = a huge unknown if i5 or i7 could be installed. Eventually - you can use i3-550, it`s not a shitty product, but having some nice 4 cores would be better. As you can see here: http://www.techspot.com[...] - Crysis 3 is also "cpu sensitive" - faster clock = more fps, so OC would be a nice idea, but not with this mobo and case (probably no decent cpu cooler can fit in there and temperatures will be quite bad due to poor airflow). Upgrading mobo, cpu, psu, gfx ... it`s like whole new PC ;)
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Du kan altid tage kabinet, ny psu, gfx, hdd's drev mv. med i en fremtidig opgradering (mobo+cpu) hvis dette ikke kører optimalt. Men prøv et 7870 el 7870xt alt efter hvilken pris/sted du vælger. Men det er ikke sikkert du kan overclocke mere end 3,6Ghz, men det er også bedre end ingenting.
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I got 500 for my earlier Medion PC, for about 1½ year ago. With 320GB HDD, Asus AH3650 Silenced 256/512MB AGP card and an Intel P 4 3,0 GHz.. But this thread is not about upgrading to an High-End Hardcore gaming PC for around 10k, but to upgrade to a markable better performance. And for the airflow, it is actually possible to buy 1 or 2 cooling fans (You didn't know?) and install them quite fine. One in front to blow and one rear to suck.. Maybe I'll add an Air-conditioning too - and even a WunderBaum for the bad smell when the motherboard is smoking. :)
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Hvilken PSU skulle jeg så snuppe, som passer til det hele? (gør intet den kan trække en tand mere end nødvendigt for nu, det er vel kun bedre)
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yyy ... "You didn't know?"? :-/ I know everything 8) No top holes, PSU on top - that`s why this case is really poor. Hot air "goes" up, in this case there`s no possibility to get rid of it, so it stays inside. I hope PSU`s fan isn`t on the bottom ... if it is ... it sucks the hot air to ... chill internal components. Buying fans for this case? - it`s better to buy new case, that`s what i`m suggesting you - instead of spending money for it ... you can find much better components and you don`t have to spend 10k on that. You could use your present: 1) cpu 2) RAM 3) HDD - you didn`t answer which one you got 4) DVD-RW (if it would be compatible with new mobo - SATA or IDE connection) 5) Windows 7, but shhhhh .... so nobody knows :D So you need: 6) gfx - you want to buy new anyway 7) psu - new one is needed anyway Extra: 8) case +- 400 dkk 9) cpu cooler +- 250 dkk 10) motherboard - a good one, so you can OC and would be compatible with i5/i7 cpus +- 400dkk used one. So that would be +- 1050 dkk extra - to have a "new PC". Whatever, your attitude is kinda weird.
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Denne har jeg selv lige købt og kan kun anbefale den: http://www.computersalg.dk[...] Er også ret sikker på den kan trække et hd7970. Men nemt et 7870 el 7870xt. Men den kan ikke køre sli/crossfire + en cpu der kræver mange watt (100w). Men den kan hive nogle amp. Har også læst den er bedre end corsair, men det kan man selv vurdere http://www.jonnyguru.com[...] Denne tror jeg er for stor til dit kabinet, men den kan også trække en del http://www.computersalg.dk[...] Men er ikke sikker på om den kan sidde der. 550W er nok.
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Okay, tak :) Jeg nupper nok det 7870XT og så den PSU (XFX Core Edition PRO550W) indtil jeg måske opgraderer bundkortet en skønne dag.
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7870XT is a hungry card, 550W will be under quite big load and it`s load / fan noise isn`t so friendly ... that`s why i have recommended you Be quiet! System Power 7 600W, with more friendly noise curve: Fan typeSilentFan +SilentWings- Bearing technologysleeve Fan size (mm)120 Max. fan speed (rpm), temperature-dependent1477 Control of case fans- Temperature control for case fans- Noise level data:- dB(A) at 20% load 15.7 dB(A) at 50% load 15.7 dB(A) at 100% load 26.8 + Silver efficiency. Dimensions without cable (L x W x D), (mm)86 x 150 x 140.
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You're right about the Be quiet psu you link to, is better than the xfx, but also more expensive. Though I think you get watts, for every dime you spend more on the be quiet. But I'm sure that the xfx will still pull the 7870xt (according to test/link) and his current/next mobo/cpu, with ease. The XFX is in the better league 80+ bronce than other psu's, but the one you're linking to is 80+ silver; so in the even higher rankings. Depends on how much Mr. C will spend, and prepare for a future system it's his choice. If he wants to spend the 130kr more he should go for the be-quiret, but the xfx has extensive tests behind it to prove that it can pull many watts/amps, and I haven't read any test about the be quiet, so I don't know much about it yet. But the 80+ silver mark on the be quiet should say a lot :-)
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e-gamer: The reason for not buying a new case, a new motherboard and a new CPU is (for now), that I just want to do it for a low cost, but still get more performance. As for now, a new PSU + GFX will do quite fine, I think. Don't you? And if the temp. in the case is going to be too high when gaming with the new GFX, I will just modify the case. With some extra fans or even cut/drill a hole on the top of the case, and put a fan to suck the hot air out. I don't know about it yet. About the PSU, I think I might go with the be quiet! you linked to. 130kr +- is not going to sink the ship.
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# 27 As it was suggested in # 9 ;) And yes - new gfx (+ new PSU to give enough power to gfx) ... that`s what you should do at start, that`s the most important update ... and then you`ll see. HD 7870 XT is a gfx with one of the best prioce / performance ratio on the market, so a good choice. And remember to install the PSU with it`s fan on top, so it`s not sucking the hot air from inside the case.
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I'm glad to hear it's a great card. What do you mean with that? It can only be installed in one position, right? With the fan downside in the case.
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Neh, install it like this: http://img687.imageshack.us[...] http://content.hwigroup.net[...] The label will be reversed, but it`s fine = it`s normal: http://content.hwigroup.net[...] - that`s how the PSU would be mounted in a case with PSU on bottom ... exactly the same "way" as you should mount it in your case, only a view from other perspective.
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Then the fan will be closed in the top of the case??
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Yes, but that`s fine. Having it on the bottom will cause that hot air from inside the case will be moved into the PSU, and that`s really bad. It would be also "funny" ... a "fight" between gfx`s fans and PSU fan for the air, as your mobo is micro-ATX, a "short version".
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I've just received the HD 7870XT today.. And waiting for the be quiet 600W.. Is there any notes when installing the new things?
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Nothing special to worry about, except having power off while doing it, being a little bit careful and not being to hard on it, as everything has to match to proper plugs. Try not to push so hard plugs which should be installed in motherboard, so you won`t break it.
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Thank you. Yeah of course power off. Hehe. And yes, I surely will be careful with the connectors. If any problems occur during the installation, I'll post it here for further help, If you're ready to assist though. :)
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I'm installing everything now. Should I connect both the 20 + 4-pin connectors or just the 20-pin to the motherboard like the old PSU?
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If you can use 24-pin plug there - then you should do it.
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The only way the PSU could be installed was the ventilator facing down like the old one, because thats how the screws would fit.
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The be quiet have got enough cables to go around the Earth two times.. Shiit.. Think I might need a bigger tower.
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http://hwt.dk[...] Der er en cpu der evt..
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Finish :)The only stuff beating with was the massive cables and holding them away from the 7870's two big fans.
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Hi, could you do a test? http://www.hardwareonline.dk[...] - i wonder if you experience the same. Case tip: http://www.edbpriser.dk[...] - cheap, cable management, a lot of fans, fan controller, USB 3.0: http://www.overclockers.ua[...] and in this case mounting fan with PSU on top wouldn`t be so bad - as here the PSU wouldn`t suck the hot air so much, as it should "go" to the top, and you would be able to mount the PSU both ways. I would suggest you to forget about cpu swap, as your motherboard is a really unknown and might not support some cpus. That would be crazy to buy a cpu and not being able to use it, but as i remember from the latest comment about cpu - you`ve decided not to change it.
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Did you just recommend this PSU to me because you bought it yourself? ;-) I'll do the "test" when turning it off later. But when you received the PSU, was it in a box or just wrapped with bubleplastic (spell?)? Because mine were not in a factory box. As regarding the case, does the motherboard just fits exactly with the screw holes etc. ? In the picture it looks like the case is opening from the right side - and mine is from the left side.
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#43 No, i`ve ordered the PSU on monday evening(but it`s not for me), due to ... it looks like a good product - Silver efficiency, quiet fan, in this price range. Yeah, i was a little bit confused with the box (a simple one), but you know - the price ... they cut costs so they sell it cheap, that`s why the equipment is basic: http://peecee.dk[...] Motherboard - case ... you will have to turn your motherboard @ 180 degrees. Your isn`t mounted normally atm., it use some other system. Everything will fit fine.
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Okay, then I'll don't worry about the package. Its not suited for that position. (180* horizontal) Then ex. the GFXs fans will be facing down etc.?
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Nice CPU cooler. Hehe.. So your motherboard is also reversed 180 degrees as I can see, and every other pictures on Google I've found with that case. Will my motherboard fits correctly and easy? And what about the USB, Ethernet etc. connection?
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Will the motherboard fit easy with the exact same holes and screws?
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It`s not my mobo, some photo from internet - and it`s a "normal mobo", where you got I/O panel: http://buildyourowncomputerworkshop.com[...] closer to the top of the case. With reversed type - you got it on bottom, you got also PSU cable on top - so it`s a worse solution, f.e. when plugging mouse or other cables. Everything is standarized, you don`t have to worry about screws, holes. But if you want to change case ... and you got some $$$ think about "new" components, so you can install them with new case ... few days ago somebody was selling a nice mobo: http://www.gigabyte.dk[...] + i7-920 for 700dkk. If you sell your mobo + cpu for like 300-400dkk, then upgrade gonna cost you like 300-400dkk.
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Alright.. Some day I'll upgrade it with new CPU, case, motherboard etc. Since I've installed the new GFX, everytime in video output (duplicate the picture) to secondary screen (32" LG or my 46" Samsung) when playing a movie, the picture is flickering (horizontal lines) when camera is moving fast. The problem is only occurring when duplicating the screen to secondary screen. And only on the secondary screen. With the old GFX I didn't have this problem. Everything was fine. When extending the screen and playing the movie on the extended screen, its fine! I've tried uninstalling it completely (drivers, software etc.) and re-installing it. But its still the same!
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I've just found out, that In Catalyst Control Center, when changing the "primary screen" to the secondary screen (still duplicating output), then the flickering disappear from the secondary screen, but is now at the first screen. So its just reversed. Also when I try resizing the window (VLC Media Player) on the flickering screen, it will make flicker.
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